looks like forge 2 startsup instantly and not only takes up memory but also starts multiple threads even though I have not used forge at all.

That is very nasty behavior for a plugin.

Not sure what it is/was doing but this is 5-10 minutes after startup and it is still in some timed/queuing .

"Reference Reaper" daemon prio=5 tid=0x000000011204f800 nid=0xa00b in Object.wait() [0x000
0000111100000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)

• waiting on <0x00000007dca8cab8> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
  at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:135)
• locked <0x00000007dca8cab8> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
  at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:151)
  at org.jboss.modules.ref.References$ReaperThread.run(References.java:68)

"Forge Container org.jboss.forge.container.ForgeImpl@57f8b993" prio=5 tid=0x0000000110f25000 nid=0xa107 waiting on condition [0x0000000111800000]
java.lang.Thread.State: TIMED_WAITING (sleeping)
at java.lang.Thread.sleep(Native Method)
at org.jboss.forge.container.ForgeImpl.start(ForgeImpl.java:151)
at org.jboss.forge.container.ForgeImpl$1.run(ForgeImpl.java:92)